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What Positive Things Have You Achieved Since Leaving?
by sweet pea inpurps' wonderful thread about love made me wonder about something else.
what have you achieved/become since leaving the organisation that proves there is a happy, successful life outside being a jehovah's witness?
for me, although it's only been a very short time, too short to achieve much, i count becoming: non-judgemental of my fellow man; a mum that can give her kids all the room to grow and blossom without fear of 'sinning' or being kicked out for bad behaviour; a person that can feel comfortable worshipping in a church or not, depending on whatever i feel like doing; someone who can love and give freely and celebrate life in all it's glory (i just love birthdays!
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What Positive Things Have You Achieved Since Leaving?
by sweet pea inpurps' wonderful thread about love made me wonder about something else.
what have you achieved/become since leaving the organisation that proves there is a happy, successful life outside being a jehovah's witness?
for me, although it's only been a very short time, too short to achieve much, i count becoming: non-judgemental of my fellow man; a mum that can give her kids all the room to grow and blossom without fear of 'sinning' or being kicked out for bad behaviour; a person that can feel comfortable worshipping in a church or not, depending on whatever i feel like doing; someone who can love and give freely and celebrate life in all it's glory (i just love birthdays!
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EF/RF - Independence and freedom rocks!
Mr Flipper - You're such an ol' romantic - always great to hear a soppy love story - so happy for you both. -
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What Positive Things Have You Achieved Since Leaving?
by sweet pea inpurps' wonderful thread about love made me wonder about something else.
what have you achieved/become since leaving the organisation that proves there is a happy, successful life outside being a jehovah's witness?
for me, although it's only been a very short time, too short to achieve much, i count becoming: non-judgemental of my fellow man; a mum that can give her kids all the room to grow and blossom without fear of 'sinning' or being kicked out for bad behaviour; a person that can feel comfortable worshipping in a church or not, depending on whatever i feel like doing; someone who can love and give freely and celebrate life in all it's glory (i just love birthdays!
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sweet pea
Purps' wonderful thread about Love made me wonder about something else.
What have you achieved/become since leaving the organisation that proves there is a happy, successful life outside being a Jehovah's Witness?
For me, although it's only been a very short time, too short to achieve much, I count becoming: non-judgemental of my fellow man; a mum that can give her kids all the room to grow and blossom without fear of 'sinning' or being kicked out for bad behaviour; a person that can feel comfortable worshipping in a church or not, depending on whatever I feel like doing; someone who can love and give freely and celebrate life in all it's glory (I just love birthdays!), and generally one that is free to think and question without fear of judgement. Although it is and has been painful leaving, there are so many, many, upsides and I feel that this is just the beginning.... Who knows, maybe one day I'll become a brain surgeon or an outer space traveller. LOL.
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Dilemma - What can I offer my wife if she leaves the witnesses?
by truthseeker inthis week, my wife called me an "opposing husband" - because i stopped believing that jehovah chose the watchtower society as his sole channel on earth.. .
my wife knows about the society, it's flip-flop on doctrines, child sex abuse scandals, including the un, but none of that matters.. .
she doesn't read the litertaure, not even the bible.. .
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sweet pea
You can be df'd for missing meetings and having doubts - we're about to be....
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What are you reading?
by Hortensia init's rather quiet on the jwd forum tonight - probably you are all out partying, eh?
i'm wondering what's in the pile of books by your chair or bed?
i have a couple of mysteries, robert barnard's newest one and a really old arthur upfield.
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sweet pea
In Search Of Christian Freedom - Ray Franz
Seductive Poison - A Jonestown Survivor's Story of Life in The People's Temple
The Jesus I Never Knew - Philip Yancey
Skydiving For Parents - Jane Bullivant
and God Created The Au Pair
Simply Christian - Tom Wright
What's So Amazing About Grace - Philip Yancey
Awakening of A Jehovah's Witness - Diane Wilson
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Dilemma - What can I offer my wife if she leaves the witnesses?
by truthseeker inthis week, my wife called me an "opposing husband" - because i stopped believing that jehovah chose the watchtower society as his sole channel on earth.. .
my wife knows about the society, it's flip-flop on doctrines, child sex abuse scandals, including the un, but none of that matters.. .
she doesn't read the litertaure, not even the bible.. .
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sweet pea
CHY - can you post your questions on blood for all of us please?
Thanks in advance.
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sweet pea
IpSec - you will make a wonderful dad.
You have a great opportunity to meet someone and fall in love without there ever being the possibility of raising them in a 'divided' home. you're a lucky man.
So, get out there and go have some fun - these are going to be the best years of your life.
Kids are hard work but fantastic, life can be great with or without them. Concentrate on finding the love of your life, the rest will take care of itself....
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Dilemma - What can I offer my wife if she leaves the witnesses?
by truthseeker inthis week, my wife called me an "opposing husband" - because i stopped believing that jehovah chose the watchtower society as his sole channel on earth.. .
my wife knows about the society, it's flip-flop on doctrines, child sex abuse scandals, including the un, but none of that matters.. .
she doesn't read the litertaure, not even the bible.. .
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sweet pea
WHEN she leaves the witnesses (this could take years or weeks, you never know when, but it sounds like there are signs of hope), you can offer her a much calmer, less stressful and a more enriching, honest and fun filled life away from the routine of JWLand.
6 months ago I was under the illusion that there was no alternative to life to outside the 'truth' - I wasn't looking for a way out and didn't think I was unhappy but there were things underneath the surface that were obviously bothering me.
I did feel that as Witnesses, we had something very special and that 'worldly' people were not people I wanted to spend huge amounts of time with, most of them anyway (due to the drinking/smoking/language etc 'thing') however, it was only once I had the blinkers removed that I realised that I just didn't know ENOUGH 'worldy' people - now I can see there are many, many amazing people out here that I do want to spend my time with developing their friendships. I feel back at first base and know that deep friendships will take years to grow but I'm on that road now and as Purps said I would rather have smoking, drinking and even the occasional cursing (:-)) friends who love me unconditionally than friends that love me only for who they THINK I am and for believing all the same things as them (don't get me wrong I will always love my Witness friends even though they want nothing to do with me).
So, don't give up on your wife if you love her, just let her be. Don't criticise the org constantly but choose your moment when she hits a low point with Witness life or life in general and then plant a seed of doubt, not too many at once. This is what Besty did with me - he waited 10 years because he didn't want me to leave. I was still of 'self righteous, fully convinced, paid up member' type all this time. I don't think before I was ready I could ever have been enticed away.
Perhaps you could try Open Mind's technique - have a bible study with her - tell her you want to really find out the truth about things with her and you want her input/help. If Besty had tried this on me I would've jumped at the chance to do some serious bible study with him...
Whatever road you go down I wish you all the best and really hope that you guys can work it out together.
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What's Your Favourite YouTube Clip?
by sweet pea in.
if you need to laugh... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujxi6x-moxe&feature=active_sharing .
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If you need to laugh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjXi6X-moxE&feature=active_sharing -
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favorite movie lines
by bigdreaux inmine is from animal house: .
over!?!?!?!!?
was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?!?!?!?!?!
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sweet pea
Now Voyager -
Charlotte Vale: Oh Jerry, don't let's ask for the moon. We have the stars.
Gone With The Wind -
Rhett Butler: No, I don't think I will kiss you, although you need kissing, badly. That's what's wrong with you. You should be kissed and often, and by someone who knows how.
Monty Python's Life of Brian -
Brian's Mother: He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!
Ex-Leper: Half a dinare for me bloody life story?
Brian: There's no pleasing some people.
Ex-Leper: That's just what Jesus said, sir.
Brian: You have to be different!
The Crowd: Yes, we are all different!
Small lonely voice: I'm not!
Pontious Pilate: He has a wife, you know. Do you know what she's called? She's called... Incontinentia. Incontinentia Buttocks.
Spectator I: I think it was "Blessed are the cheesemakers".
Mrs. Gregory: Aha, what's so special about the cheesemakers?
Gregory: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
(I could basically post the whole script of this film - it just cracks me up)
Young Frankenstein -
Igor: You know, I'll never forget my old dad. When these things would happen to him... the things he'd say to me.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: What did he say?
Igor: "What the hell are you doing in the bathroom day and night? Why don't you get out of there and give someone else a chance?"
(Sorry about the formatting, or lack of - working on a mac, you don't get all the normal options, at least that is what this technically challenged member experiences!)